Diskussion: Kinas nya cybersäkerhetsprogram

Diskussion i 'Off Topic' startad av cobben, 1 dec 2019.

  1. cobben

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    Det här var roligt.

    Det innebär t.ex., för privat personer som använder t.ex. Xiaomis Mi Cloud backup tjänster, att hela kinesiska samhället kan helt öppet och lagligt snoka i vad du har för dig.

    "China Law Blog" har jag inte stött på tidigare, så ta allt med en nypa - soja sås.


    China’s New Cybersecurity Program: NO Place to Hide

    The Chinese government has been working for several years on a comprehensive Internet security/surveillance program. This program is based on the Cybersecurity Law adopted on 2016. The plan is vast and includes a number of subsidiary laws and regulations. On December 1, 2018, the Chinese Ministry of Public Security announced it will finally roll-out the full plan.

    The plan for the new system is ambitious and comprehensive. As explained by Guo Qiquan, the chief cheerleader for the plan, the main goal of the new system is to provide “full coverage”. As explained by Guo, “It will cover every district, every ministry, every business and other institution, basically covering the whole society. It will also cover all targets that need [cybersecurity] protection, including all networks, information systems, cloud platforms, the internet of things, control systems, big data and mobile internet.”

    This system will apply to foreign owned companies in China on the same basis as to all Chinese persons, entities or individuals. No information contained on any server located within China will be exempted from this full coverage program. No communication from or to China will be exempted. There will be no secrets. No VPNs. No private or encrypted messages. No anonymous online accounts. No trade secrets. No confidential data. Any and all data will be available and open to the Chinese government. Since the Chinese government is the shareholder in all SOEs and is now exercising de facto control over China’s major private companies as well, all of this information will then be available to those SOEs and Chinese companies. See e.g. China to place government officials inside 100 private companies, including Alibaba. All this information will be available to the Chinese military and military research institutes. The Chinese are being very clear that this is their plan.
     
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    Handelskrig, pyttsan.
    Infovärldskrig, helt utan begränsningar.

    U.S. Senate Bill to Block American Companies From Storing Data in China: It’s About Time
    By Dan Harris on November 19, 2019

    . . .
    In How China’s New CyberSecurity Laws Can (Will?) Destroy Your Business, we set out how damaging it will be for foreign companies that turn over their data to the Chinese government, beyond even that the Chinese government and its state-owned companies and universities can now freely possess it. We wrote how turning over this data will “harm foreign businesses far beyond China because it may violate export control laws and effectively eliminate any trade secret protections that formerly attached to the data”:
    . . .

    Senator Hawley’s bill also will greatly limit what Chinese companies can do in the United States, but we will save the analysis on that portion of it for another day.

    What’s most relevant here and now is that it will prohibit American companies from transferring user data or encryption keys to China. But seeing as how when the Chinese police demand such a data transfer from an American company in China, those companies must either comply or go to a Chinese jail for a long time, Hawley’s bill prohibits American companies from storing data in China in the first place.

    If this Act becomes U.S. law, it will have earth-shattering ramifications for American companies that do business in China and I predict some form of this Act will become law. But even if it doesn’t, the cat is essentially out of the bag in terms of China’s far-reaching and incredibly intrusive laws to get at foreign company data. This proposed Act will jump-start American (and European companies) learning of how their data is at extreme and essentially unmitigated risk in China and of how they need to act accordingly. In our next post, we will explain what “act accordingly” should look like.

    As we have been saying since October 6 of last year, welcome to the New Normal.
     
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    Det finns mera "godbitar", liknar 1984:

    A new law requiring China's telecoms operators to collect face scans when registering new phone users took effect on Sunday, as Beijing continues to tighten controls on the internet.

    China enacts mobile phone face-scan law - RTHK
     
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    Undrar vad som sker med företag som Apple som redan gett kinesiska staten datat och nycklarna. Blir intressant att se.
     
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    Skulle inte känna mig tryggare med amerikanska staten.
     
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    Då kan jag rekommendera dig att kolla BBCs dokumentär ang Kinas "omskolningsläger" för Uighurs!
     
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    Kinas "The Great Wall" brandväggen är väl mest till för att hålla sina egna tryggt instängda.

    Men här är en omvänd variant, där "de instangda" kan formeras, utan sin vetskap, till ett attack vapen mot omvärlden.

    Vilka fina saker man kan plocka ihop när man har kontroll över hela samhället.


    China fires up 'Great Cannon' denial-of-service blaster, points it toward Hong Kong

    It is believed that the sustained flood of traffic is the result of the offensive capabilities built into the "Great Firewall," China's massive network infrastructure designed to filter, censor, and monitor traffic within the country's borders. Thus far, it appears that LIHKG's anti-DDOS service is holding up to the barrage and the site remains accessible.

    The offensive mode, referred to as the Great Cannon, has been known since at least 2015, when it was revealed that PCs visiting sites within the firewall's domain had been seeded with JavaScript code that, on command, would direct them to fire data packets at a specific target.
     
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    Detta var bra, finns några saker här som jag inte skulle ha tänkt på, hur paranoid man än är.
    Man kan förstås ersätta "China" med valfritt annat land - USA, RF, Norge . . . :eek:

    How to Protect Your Company Information When You Travel to China
    By Dan Harris on December 3, 2019

    A lawyer’s job is to discern their clients’ risks and help them avoid them. We are both trained and paid to be paranoid.
    . . .

    With all that has been going on in China lately regarding data theft and with the accelerating decline in relations between China and the West, our international lawyers are getting a raft of questions from clients and readers wanting to know what they should be doing to protect their data when traveling to China.

    Here is our most recent list.

    • Tell as few people as possible that you will be going to China and tell those few people as late as possible. But assume that once you enter China, if someone really wants to know if you are there, they have probably bought off someone at China customs to get that information. Also assume that the government knows pretty much everywhere you go.
    . . .
     
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    Held Hostage in China: How to Make Like Carlos Ghosn and Escape
    By Dan Harris on January 4, 2020

    - - -

    Based on the above, I do not blame Mr. Ghosn one bit for fleeing Japan.

    We also have gotten a ton of questions about whether something like this could happen in China. Well, of course it could. It could happen in China because its government is uber-powerful, uber-corrupt and uber political and its important criminal trials involving foreigners are rigged and pre-ordained.
    - - -

    But what if you are held in China, but not jailed? In China Product Defects, Lawsuits, Hostage Taking and Exit Ban: Please, Please, Please Read This! we wrote about how foreigners who allegedly owe money to Chinese companies are often held as debt hostages by the Chinese company to which the money is allegedly owed:

    Hostage taking. The Chinese side will arrange a meeting to take place at the factory or in a hotel that cooperates with the factory. The factory staff will obtain the passport of the foreign buyer. After the passport is obtained (stolen or taken by force), the factory holds the buyer captive either in a factory dormitory or in the cooperating hotel. The Chinese call this a “soft kidnapping” because no physical threats are made. The factory simply states: we won’t let you leave until after you pay the bill. If the police are contacted, the police will usually say: “It’s none of our business. You should pay the bill.” If the local authorities are contacted, they will usually say “It’s none of our business. You should pay the bill.” Resolving the matter without making payment is nearly impossible.
    . . .
     
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    Mycket skrämmande läsning.
    Fortsätt dela, intressant men skrämmande.
     
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    Håller med.
    Mest skrämmande att det finns människor i Sverige som ignorerar vad Kina håller på med när det kommer till mänskliga rättigheter. Västerländska företag som inte gör affärer i Kina bör få en tapperhetsmedalj, övriga kölhalas.
     
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    Hyllorna hade gapat tomma och industrin hade gått under typ...
     
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    Politik,eller?