Diskussion: Telegram

Diskussion i 'Applikationer' startad av cobben, 9 jan 2021.

  1. Nicole

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    Exakt! Tänker samma om tex TikTok, appen kan ju inte rå för att folk inte kan bete sig!
     
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    Durov:

    "Många användare bad oss att inte överväga att inaktivera Telegram-kanaler under konfliktperioden, eftersom vi är den enda informationskällan för dem.
    . . . "

    Sedan har det intressanta inträffat att Dmitrij Medvedev (~ Putins högra hand) har just skaffat sig en Telegram kanal, där han än så länge har en enda post som förstås framför Rysslands officiella linje.

    Den börjar så här :

    "Detta är mitt första inlägg i telegram. Omständigheterna har utvecklats på ett sådant sätt att denna kommunikationsresurs var i efterfrågan i större utsträckning än de välkända sociala medier som är nu komprometterade. Därför ägnas denna första publikation till det mest dramatiska ämnet.
    . . . "

    (Google översatta med viss korrigering)
     
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  3. cobben

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    Blir intressant att se om Medvedev får ha sin kanal kvar . . .

    Durov har även lagt upp detta på sin engelska kanal.

    If you follow my posts, you know that on my Mom's side, I trace my family line from Kyiv. Her maiden name is Ukrainian (Ivanenko), and to this day we have many relatives living in Ukraine. That's why this tragic conflict is personal both to me and Telegram.

    Some people wondered if Telegram is somehow less secure for Ukrainians, because I once lived in Russia. Let me tell these people how my career in Russia ended.

    Nine years ago I was the CEO of VK, which was the largest social network in Russia and Ukraine. In 2013, the Russian security agency, FSB, demanded that I provide them the private data of the Ukrainian users of VK who were protesting against a pro-Russian President.

    I refused to comply with these demands, because it would have meant a betrayal of our Ukrainian users. After that, I was fired from the company I founded and was forced to leave Russia.

    I lost my company and my home, but would do it again – without hesitation. I smile with pride when I read my VK post from April 2014, which shows the scanned orders from the FSB and my trademark response to them – a dog in a hoodie.

    When I defied their demands, the stakes were high for me personally. I was still living in Russia, and my team and my old company were also based in that country.

    Many years have passed since then. Many things changed: I no longer live in Russia, no longer have any companies or employees there. But one thing remains the same – I stand for our users no matter what. Their right to privacy is sacred. Now – more than ever.
     
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    Har man känslig information så skapar man en Secret Chat som är end to end där man även kan sätta tidsgräns osv.

    Men som sagt är man väldigt rädd av sig lämpar sig signal bättre från start.
     
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  7. Oceanic

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    funktionen funkar dåligt och det är ingen som använder det.ja eller whatsapp.
     
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    Har helt gått över till Signal och Session.
    Signal för personer som jag känner och vill dela mitt telefonnummer med.
    Session till övriga och behöver varken dela telefonnummer, eller någon mejladress:cool:
     
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  9. cobben

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    Har inte lagt märke till någon kommentar från Durov ang. det där i Tyskland, kanske inte anses vara något?
    Men han är rätt pragmatisk av sig.


    "I wrote a detailed post explaining why Telegram sometimes has to take unusual actions in content moderation, such as following the policies of Google and Apple when they suspended a voting app last week.

    TLDR; Had the position of Apple and Google been different, we could have avoided complying with a local law that prescribed content moderation last weekend. However, picking a fight with these two tech companies AND a government at the same time results in an immediate shutdown of Telegram for millions of users. Such wars have a heavy price and should only be started in cases when the requirement of a law is in direct contradiction with human rights.

    Telegram gives its users more freedom than any other app. If Telegram has to temporarily remove some content due to a law, it means that other platforms would have removed it long before us.

    If you are in the mood for a long read, check out the whole post."
     
  10. cobben

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    Det här dök upp nu i någon av Toncoin kanalerna.
    Har inte hunnit kolla närmare, men verkar ev. intressant.

    @ Mobile (bottens Telegram username)

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    Trevligt, men dyra priser jämfört med att köpa ett lokalt simkort.
     
  12. cobben

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    Durov har tänkt till.
    Gratis är bra inom vissa gränser.
    Men utanför dessa gränser, får man vackert betala vad det kostar . . .
    Inte orimligt kanske?
    Ska fundera på vad han egentligen avser här.

    "Since the day Telegram was launched almost 9 years ago, we've been giving our users more features and resources than any other messaging app. A free app as powerful as Telegram was revolutionary in 2013 and is still unprecedented in 2022. To this day, our limits on chats, media and file uploads are unrivaled.

    And yet, many have been asking us to raise the current limits even further, so we looked into ways to let you go beyond what is already crazy. The problem here is that if we were to remove all limits for everyone, our server and traffic costs would have become unmanageable, so the party would be unfortunately over for everyone.

    After giving it some thought, we realized that the only way to let our most demanding fans get more while keeping our existing features free is to make those raised limits a paid option. That's why this month we will introduce Telegram Premium, a subscription plan that allows anyone to acquire additional features, speed and resources. It will also allow users to support Telegram and join the club that receives new features first.

    Not to worry though: all existing features remain free, and there are plenty of new free features coming. Moreover, even users who don't subscribe to Telegram Premium will be able to enjoy some of its benefits: for example, they will be able to view extra-large documents, media and stickers sent by Premium users, or tap to add Premium reactions already pinned to a message to react in the same way.

    While our experiments with privacy-focused ads in public one-to-many channels have been more successful than we expected, I believe that Telegram should be funded primarily by its users, not advertisers. This way our users will always remain our main priority."
     
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    Folk borde fatta att Telegram är mer likt Discord/VK social media. Det är ingen bra ersättare för WhatsApp/iMesssge. Istället är Signal, Session, Briar, Matrix bättre för enskilda chatter.
     
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    Det händer mycket på Telegram nu, jag har inte koll på allt.
    Främst håller Durov på med att bygga ut det till ett fullödigt social media plattform, verkar det som.
    Toncoin är tätt integrerat i Telegram och möjliggör främst nästan gratis mikrobetalningar, vad jag förstår.

    Durov:

    The blockchain industry was built on the promise of decentralization, but ended up being concentrated in the hands of a few who began to abuse their power. As a result, a lot of people lost their money when FTX, one of the largest exchanges, went bankrupt.

    The solution is clear: blockchain-based projects should go back to their roots – decentralization. Cryptocurrency users should switch to trustless transactions and self-hosted wallets that don't rely on any single third party.

    We, developers, should steer the blockchain industry away from centralization by building fast and easy-to-use decentralized applications for the masses. Such projects are finally feasible today.

    It took only 5 weeks and 5 people including myself to put together Fragment – a fully decentralized auction platform. We were able to do this because Fragment is based on The Open Network, or TON – a blockchain platform that is fast and efficient enough to host popular applications (unlike Ethereum, which unfortunately remains outdated and expensive even after its recent tweaks).

    Fragment has been an amazing success, with 50 million USD worth of usernames sold there in less than a month. This week, Fragment will expand beyond usernames.

    Telegram's next step is to build a set of decentralized tools, including non-custodial wallets and decentralized exchanges for millions of people to securely trade and store cryptocurrencies. This way we can fix the wrongs caused by the excessive centralization, which let down hundreds of thousands of cryptocurrency users.

    The time when the inefficiencies of legacy platforms justified centralization should be long gone. With technologies like TON reaching their potential, the blockchain industry should be finally able to deliver on its core mission – giving the power back to the people.
     
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    Fragment drivs av ett fristående bolag (se nedan).

    Man "har" inte ett konto på Fragment, utan man kopplar ett Telegramkonto samt en plånbok till Fragment när man vill göra något.

    Jag testar att sälja några användar namn där (för hutlösa belopp ), ingen som har nappat än.:(


    Terms of Service
    These Terms are an agreement between you and Fragment Corp. (the “Company”) a company registered according to the laws of the Republic of Seychelles with company registration number 221287. For the purposes of this document, ‘we’, ‘us’ and ‘our’ refers to Fragment Corp., ‘Telegram’ refers to Telegram Messenger Inc. and ‘you’ refers to you, the user.
     
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