Diskussion: G3 Kamera

Stromma · 30 maj 2014

Tänkte vi kunde köra en tråd med fakta, tester och fotoexempel på kameran. Länkar till några klipp och har saxat några inlägg från en tråd på xda med lite trevlig läsning om man är intresserad.

Front-facing. Camera[YOUTUBE]3GxPcPfNDf4[/YOUTUBE]

Back-facing Camera[YOUTUBE]noEMoqZqTZ8[/YOUTUBE]

LG G3 vs Samsung Galaxy S5 Camera[YOUTUBE]Cvq9d9922dY[/YOUTUBE]

Magic Focus Feature[YOUTUBE]H2GyZPCPRhE[/YOUTUBE]

Small G3 camera shootout:
First LG G3 samples get compared with the Galaxy S5, One M8, Note 3, and iPhone 5s

Boobook skrev: [↑↑]

crappy audio noise cancellation
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klmd skrev: [↑↑]

yes I wonder if they haven't finalized their software for it or if you should only turn it on in certain situations or what.

Anyways, I haven't seen many videos but here's one that shows the super steady and well exposed video the G3 can shoot, along with no audio issues. Pretty impressive for indoors video so far:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffz71YW02lM
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beezar skrev: [↑↑]

The real question is if they have improved the camera in low-light conditions with moving objects. The LG G2 stock camera suffered BADLY in trying to shoot pictures of moving objects in low light conditions.

In addition, the stock G2 camera denoising algorithm was way too aggressive leading to watercolor-like pictures, again especially in low-light.

Glad they tried to address the slow focus issue with the G2 by implementing laser focus.
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klmd skrev: [↑↑]

Photographer here -- unfortunately, in low light with ANY smartphone you'll have difficulty capturing a moving object. With low light, you require a longer shutter speed, and depending on how fast the object is moving, you're guaranteed to have blur. Whether your phone is hand held or on a tripod does not matter -- the motion is relative to the camera, not the camera itself.

In low light to be able to effectively capture a moving object with no blur you will need a large sensor camera (e.g. DSLR APS-C or m4/3) and fast (large aperture) lens. Smartphones have small sensors and can't capture as much light which therefore requires lengthening the shutter speed to allow enough light in to expose the scene properly. Similarly, they can't use higher ISO (sensitivity) to keep the shutter speed short either due to having excessive noise at comparable ISO levels.

The exception to this is a good flash. With a good flash you can use a faster shutter speed and be able to "freeze motion" better. Of course, the flashes on phones are underpowered and will only help you out if you're reasonably close to whatever you're trying to capture.

Just to give some examples, in lower light situations small sensor cameras pretty much have to use a 1/30s or longer shutter speed. Any object that's moving faster than a snail's pace will therefore have blur. On the other hand, with a large sensor camera and fast lens, you can realistically increase your ISO to say 6400 if you have a fast moving object and set your shutter speed to 1/200s and fire away.

Another issue is that we really don't have effective control over shutter speed on smartphones. Hopefully this will come eventually with Android's new API (along with RAW support). Sure, most people don't know how to shoot in manual mode but for those who do it's very helpful. I believe many phone manufacturers include a "sports" or "action" mode that will prioritize shutter speed over ISO (and no idea if the G2 has a similar mode), but still there's only so much it can do with a small sensor in a situation where the physics just aren't in its favor. Smartphones are great in good light, but if low light is a priority, a dedicated camera is the only solution.
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misiokicio skrev: [↑↑]

thx for all that info KLMD, really helpful and easy to understand! cheers bud
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klmd skrev: [↑↑]

Of course, glad to hear it was understandable.

With all that said, what do I think of the G3's camera so far? Well first off, OIS is critical when you're not shooting outdoors and not using a tripod (due to the shutter speeds as I explained above). No other Android flagship has OIS which is quite a shame, so based on that the G3 is already starting ahead of the pack. The benefit of this is clearly demonstrated in PhoneArena's samples compared to the Galaxy S5. Due to the indoor lighting, the S5's shots appear to lack detail because of the blur induced by a long shutter speed that's not stabilized optically. Meanwhile, the G3's are tack sharp. Their samples are more of a "real world" demonstration compared to many smartphone camera reviews where they have the indoors shots stabilized on a tripod. Having the phones on a tripod eliminates the reviewer's shaky hands from affecting results, but it also hides the necessity of OIS for low light photos. 99% of the time we're not using a tripod with our smartphones.

From samples I've seen so far, LG appears to have gotten their software processing down pretty well -- way better than the G2. White balance and exposure seem to be handled well, and photos seem to have better saturation than the G2.

The G3 also appears to have a wider angle lens than the S5, and I appreciate that its sensor is 4:3 rather than 16:9. 16:9 may fill up your entire screen when framing the shot, but if shooting in landscape mode you're really losing out on vertical height (and vice versa if oriented in portrait you're not getting much horizontally). The G3 without a doubt fits more into the frame due to both the lens angle and 4:3 aspect ratio.

With the OIS and good software processing, at this point the G3's camera looks to be the most promising of any Android device. I'll wait for more samples to make a firm conclusion, but again, the G3 is more compelling than anything else right now.

Edit: correction the Nexus 5 also has OIS, but of course it's also made by LG
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Tråden på xda finns här.

Fyll gärna på med fler exempelbilder och videoklipp.

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Mendoz · 30 maj 2014

Förvånad över den främre kameran, såg ju riktigt bra ut! Är så van med att dom annars ska vara så värdelösa.

inact_0036 · 7 jun 2014

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Stromma · 8 jun 2014

Sorry, men länken fungerar inte här heller. Tror det var den här som avsågs: [Youtube]mjuFhYh2JzQ[/Youtube]LG G3 UHD/4K Sample Footage

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inact_0036 · 8 jun 2014

Stromma skrev: [↑↑]

Sorry, men länken fungerar inte här heller. Tror det var den här som avsågs: [Youtube]mjuFhYh2JzQ[/Youtube]LG G3 UHD/4K Sample Footage

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Jajamensan..

Stromma · 8 jun 2014

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Jajamensan..
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Ser det ok ut på webbsidan? Kanske bara är i Tapatalk det inte funkar?

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Stromma · 8 jun 2014

Fireworks skrev: [↑↑]

Jag har inga problem att se klippet från denna webbplats!
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Nej det var det jag tänkte. Men om man använder Tapatalk, som enligt mitt tycke är det smidigaste om man kollar genom mobilen, fungerar det inte. Då ser länken ut så här typ:

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Länkar du Youtube så här fungerar det både på webbsidan och i Tapatalk (utan mellanslagen):

[ Youtube ] mjuFhYh2JzQ [ / Youtube ]

eller bara URL:en:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjuFhYh2JzQ

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Stromma · 8 jun 2014

Felpost

Stromma · 8 jun 2014

Missade ena länken du postade:
[Youtube]8pXKxGSaRVI[/Youtube]

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Stromma · 10 jun 2014

Fireworks skrev: [↑↑]

Bokat nån g3 än?
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Längesen

Alternativet var att vänta på Galaxy F5 som kanske kommer i höst (om den kommer), och det hade jag ingen lust med. Bara hoppas att den är ok nu så man inte ångrar sig

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Stromma · 10 jun 2014

Fireworks skrev: [↑↑]

Kommer den så lär ju den dyka upp runt i Juli.. Ångra kommer du nog inte göra då lg g3 är riktigt läcker.. synd bara att den inte är vattentålig..
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Jo, det är väl det stora minuset. Sen är frågan hur skärmen presterar utomhus. Har ju varit lite skiftande omdömen så här långt, men jag tror den är ok. Jag lär väl som vanligt roota med en gång och ta bort all bloatware så den ska nog rulla på ok.

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inact_0036 · 12 jun 2014

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robcar · 16 jun 2014

Nytt testresultat
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...hird-time-in-a-row-LG-G3-close-second_id57178

Stromma · 16 jun 2014

robcar skrev: [↑↑]

Nytt testresultat
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...hird-time-in-a-row-LG-G3-close-second_id57178
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Inte så konstigt att S5 vinner ett test över G3 baserat på vad läsarna tycker kanske med tanke på hur många S5r som sålts och som faktiskt testats av presumtiva läsare jämfört med G3r.

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rickard81 · 16 jun 2014

Stromma skrev: [↑↑]

Inte så konstigt att S5 vinner ett test över G3 baserat på vad läsarna tycker kanske med tanke på hur många S5r som sålts och som faktiskt testats av presumtiva läsare jämfört med G3r.

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Fast de var ju iof ett blindtest så inga kunde veta vilka bilder S5 tagit

Skickat från min SM-G900F via Tapatalk

probeb · 18 jun 2014

http://androidandme.com/2014/06/rev...lg-g3-camera-experience-megapixels-and-lasers

Skickat från min HTC One via Tapatalk

Trino · 18 jun 2014

Skall bli skönt med en vettig kamera i telefonen! Byter ifrån en M7 med purple tint.

apelipell · 18 jun 2014

Knäppte lite snabba bilder!

http://lgambassadoren.wordpress.com/2014/06/18/snabb-titt-pa-g3s-kamera/

Vad tycker ni?

zztop007 · 18 jun 2014

Du vet att de byter ut fin m7 med purple tint hoppas jag?

Sent from a mobile Gadget...

Trino · 18 jun 2014

zztop007 skrev: [↑↑]

Du vet att de byter ut fin m7 med purple tint hoppas jag?

Sent from a mobile Gadget...
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Det vet jag, dock så vill jag inte skicka in den på lagning då den är rootad och kör annan rom. Folk har blivit nekade reparation pga. detta, medan andra har klarat sig undan och fått enheten utbytt ändå.

Att återgå till stock är självklart möjligt, dock så är mobilen 3-brandad och det är ett jädra kludd att få tillbaka den, orkar typ inte.

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